Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

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Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:39 am

Here is a nice one.
The old LNER diagram was perpetuated by BR with the early build of these wagons.
Not many of them existed still in 1977 but a suitable victim has been found - stonker!! :D

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And yes the w-irons have all the right holes now...

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The sprung w-irons are Bill Bedford ones and the mounting plate is a palatine one as you can see.
The bolt is a temporary fixture during construction - well at the moment that is the intention :scratch

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The buffers are some of the new Lanarkshire Models ones from Dave Franks - WOW!
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:12 am

Finally, this beastie has moved on.
I had encountered a wee problem with fitting the baseplate with the w-irons on - essentially it would not fit square and flat properly having fitted the buffers :x
I engaged in a wee pondering once I found the box with it in of late and this has allowed a solution.
Some sensible fettling with a dental burr has solved the problem and now an SPV is setting hard glue wise, with a fully functional sprung underframe.
I'll get some piccies latter - that is if I can get them off of the smartphone.... Errrm :lol:
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:08 am

The piccies... And apologies for the quality; better ones will appear soonest ;)

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The Parkside W-irons have been removed since this was taken so revealing the Bill Bedfords behind.
I used some Rotosound 0.011" guitar strings as springs abd a wee bit of weight - seems ok for now...

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The baseplate is a Palatine long wheelbase one - recomended!
http://www.palatinemodels.co.uk/
You can also just see the trimming back of the buffer beams, done with the dental burr. Crude but effective :axe:

Next up - sort the brake gear
And that is the vote frae the Padgate jury!
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:57 am

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Its alive and in progress.
After this image was taken last night, the brake yokes went in and a start was made on replacing the brake v's...
Stay tuned grapple fans :?
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:16 pm

An update...
Brake V's are done and look fine.
Door handles have been done with 0.4mm NS wire.
Now I just need to find the file again with all my notes in!
Axleboxes need sorting next week...

But by it wae cold in our clubroom on Wednesday :?
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby Jim S-W » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:31 pm

iak wrote:
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Hi Iain

The w iron on the left looks twisted. At first I thought it was a lens distortion but the small holes show it's definately out of square. Is it a problem with the baseplate?

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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby Butoxeter » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:18 pm

iak wrote:The baseplate is a Palatine long wheelbase one - recomended!

Never 'eard of 'em before seeing this - but what a good idea! Thanks for posting the reference.

One question though, the baseplate has it's own thickness, is this not an issue when glueing same to the underside of the wagon, when previously you would simply have glued the BB (or which ever) 'W' irons in place? In other words, would the wagon sit a tad too high now, due to the thickness of the Palatine baseplate?
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby Waveydavey » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:43 am

The BB Wirons have four fold down 'wings' that help you get the right ride height. I assume with the Palatine base plate you just don't fold them down.
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby Butoxeter » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:01 pm

Waveydavey wrote:The BB Wirons have four fold down 'wings' that help you get the right ride height


Indeed, only I've rarely, if ever, found that I've had to use this facility, hence the question! :)
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:50 pm

Waveydavey wrote:The BB Wirons have four fold down 'wings' that help you get the right ride height. I assume with the Palatine base plate you just don't fold them down.


My understanding as well David.
I actually alligned things with a Brassmasters jig as well but
that was a bit of overkill.
It runs well mind - smooooth 8-)
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby Rob Pulham » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:22 pm

iak wrote:
I actually alligned things with a Brassmasters jig as well but


Looking good Iain, I recently tried to buy a 7mm set of brassmasters Jigs but they are out of stock until March
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:29 am

Last night was spent getting awfully humpty at some roller bearing castings.
After losing one after cleaning it up, I actually had 4 totally correct ones - courtesy of Wizard Models in Hull [ next day delivery by the way, fabbo].
Then there was the springs - does anyone actually do 6 leaf springs? So some 5 leaf were used with some fettling.
Getting the springs in place was fine and getting the bearing castings ready for going the sprung w-irons was now worry. A bit of careful use of an auld dental burr or two and voilà...
Then came getting the bearings attached. After much farting about, I eventually attached them to the bottom of the springs and the area just below that on the w-iron. Trying to ensure the springs did not get super-glued was paramount here! :face:
Anyhow - job done so its onwards and upwards 8-)
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:51 am

The art of using Archer rivets was exercised this past week.
This SPV looks the biz now - piccies to follow asap.
Mind, I still have some brake linkages to sort out :lol:

The race is on for October......................... :?
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby Cock Sparra » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:32 pm

iak wrote:The art of using Archer rivets was exercised this past week.
This SPV looks the biz now - piccies to follow asap.


Never mind the brakes, where are the fot's. :shock:
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby Liddy » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:10 pm

Hi Ian,
Lovely work, please post piccies of your progress, who's brake hangers are you using?
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:33 am

Brakes nearly done - bit difficult with a head full of SSRI's :shock:

Piccies will follow this week I hope gents.
Health and brain permitting....... :axe:
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:32 am

Liddy wrote:Hi Ian,
Lovely work, please post piccies of your progress, who's brake hangers are you using?
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Sorry Liddy.
The brake hangers are MJT ones.
A lot easier to set against the wheels than the Parkside ones :lol:
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:20 am

Another late update on a project derailed by illness...

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Apologies for the blown out image but I think one can see what is what here.
The last bit of fettling and repairs [!] and then its the paint shop - faded banger blue anybody??? ;)
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Re: Ex BR Fish Van to SPV

Postby iak » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:23 pm

Well, it is finally finished. :o
The Works is finally getting back into the game properly...

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Primed and ready...
At least this kept the Archer bits in place...

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Lettering by Modelmaster and Fox Transfers.
Lifecolour Rail Blue has been used to get that battered banger blue finish... :?
To the weathering

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These Dia 800 beasties were on the way out of use come 1977, hence the skankie, tatty finish.
Next, some Dia 801's when some bloke in Bristol releases them... :D
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